Why isn't this horse winning events?

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Why isn't this horse winning events?

Postby gbbroken3 » Thu Sep 29, 2011 3:10 pm

Um What is wrong with my horse? She's not winning her events.
Which is weird, because all the horses she went up against were GWB with 225.562% surefoot...

How do you get 225.562% surefoot...or is this a breed type advantage?
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Re: Why isn't this horse winning events?

Postby Alabama » Thu Sep 29, 2011 3:57 pm

It's not redlettered in SF, that's why it's not at 225. the extra .562 is an account bonus, forget which one. I would say you might try movement shoes since movement is judged more than any other stat for dressage. I might also venture a guess that your horse's build is too heavy for Dressage.
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Re: Why isn't this horse winning events?

Postby Zimmy » Thu Sep 29, 2011 5:50 pm

I think Medium Heavy is probably about the right size for a Uni, going by the idea that the size in dressage is partially confy based... and I have seen some unis win at that size.

They are not a super great Dressage breed because the stats are a little different, but I am sure that not having SF and movement capped is really hurting the horse... you want those capped and THEN, after capped in another shoe, you might consider adding weighted shoes for movement since it is the most important stat in dressage, as Bama said.
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Re: Why isn't this horse winning events?

Postby Twisted » Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:00 pm

Zimmy wrote:They are not a super great Dressage breed because the stats are a little different, but I am sure that not having SF and movement capped is really hurting the horse... you want those capped and THEN, after capped in another shoe, you might consider adding weighted shoes for movement since it is the most important stat in dressage, as Bama said.


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Re: Why isn't this horse winning events?

Postby gbbroken3 » Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:07 pm

Actually she was capped when she was in the events. Then I put movement and correction shoes on her and it lowered her SF when I took them off...
(Which is really weird now that I think about it)

Besides the SF, the horses that evented against her had lower stats and THEY STILL WON.
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Re: Why isn't this horse winning events?

Postby Kelsey » Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:14 pm

gbbroken3 wrote:Actually she was capped when she was in the events. Then I put movement and correction shoes on her and it lowered her SF when I took them off...
(Which is really weird now that I think about it)

Besides the SF, the horses that evented against her had lower stats and THEY STILL WON.


You can't think of it like that, because SF is something that NEEDS to be maxed. So without it, the horse does poorly. Also, Unis don't do well in dressage, really.
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Re: Why isn't this horse winning events?

Postby Zimmy » Thu Sep 29, 2011 9:03 pm

When Movement is the most important stat in an event and it drops, it will kill a horse's chances... when you see the horses with full SF and movement and shoes on for + movement they have a HUGE boost over your horse at the moment... it would be like having everything BUT speed raised on a track racer... wouldn't matter how nicely everything else was raised or capped... without nice speed/speed shoes the track horse wouldn't win against the others... you are talking about the MOST important stat for the event.
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Re: Why isn't this horse winning events?

Postby gbbroken3 » Thu Sep 29, 2011 9:19 pm

I understand. I'm saying that WHEN SHE WAS COMPETING, HER SUREFOOT WAS MAXED!
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Re: Why isn't this horse winning events?

Postby Kelsey » Thu Sep 29, 2011 9:39 pm

Relax, people are only trying to help. She also has strength shoes on. Most horses need movement shoes now. Yes, some still do better with strength, but it is very rare. Also, with the new system, one placing out of 7 events isn't bad. For most people now, it is fairly decent due to how older horses are now competing against younger ones.
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Re: Why isn't this horse winning events?

Postby gbbroken3 » Fri Sep 30, 2011 7:29 am

Kelsey wrote:Relax, people are only trying to help. She also has strength shoes on. Most horses need movement shoes now. Yes, some still do better with strength, but it is very rare. Also, with the new system, one placing out of 7 events isn't bad. For most people now, it is fairly decent due to how older horses are now competing against younger ones.


what other changes were made?
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Re: Why isn't this horse winning events?

Postby Kelsey » Fri Sep 30, 2011 9:31 am

I'm not sure I understand exactly what you are asking. You mean with the eventing system? Either way, movement is now more important than strength, hence everyone using Weighted shoes. And there is the competition levels now, instead of age restrictions. This is making it a bit more difficult to event successfully at a young age, because older horses closer to opt. age can now compete against the young ones. But it is still very possible to win.
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