Top Horses in Disciplines Request thread.

[Black_Widow]

hmm, so sea breeze remains on the Jousting list despite the eventing in vaulting even though I removed mine? oookaay.
Guess I will just ignore that.

I think sea breeze entered 4 vaulting events and then was rolled so i wouldn't say she was evented in it.

[Zimmy]

hmm, so sea breeze remains on the Jousting list despite the eventing in vaulting even though I removed mine? oookaay.
Guess I will just ignore that.

I think sea breeze entered 4 vaulting events and then was rolled so i wouldn't say she was evented in it.

OK, I was just going by the 'rules' that had been set up for everyone else. And it was more like 16 events, but I guess it's up to Sarabi how the new events effect things, wont hurt my horses or anything as mine have been moved anyway. lol.

**EDIT**
You didn't change disciplines though, so maybe it shouldn't count as a change because of that... hadn't thought about that one... I feel bad for Sarabi having to figure out how to change things around for the new events. lol.

[miss sarabi]

hmm, so sea breeze remains on the Jousting list despite the eventing in vaulting even though I removed mine? oookaay.
Guess I will just ignore that.

I think sea breeze entered 4 vaulting events and then was rolled so i wouldn't say she was evented in it.

OK, I was just going by the 'rules' that had been set up for everyone else. And it was more like 16 events, but I guess it's up to Sarabi how the new events effect things, wont hurt my horses or anything as mine have been moved anyway. lol.

**EDIT**
You didn't change disciplines though, so maybe it shouldn't count as a change because of that... hadn't thought about that one... I feel bad for Sarabi having to figure out how to change things around for the new events. lol.

Sea Breeze has been removed from the Jousting list. I hope she does well for you in Vaulting Widow.

[miss sarabi]

hmm, so sea breeze remains on the Jousting list despite the eventing in vaulting even though I removed mine? oookaay.
Guess I will just ignore that.


New Drivers to put up

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[url=http://www.virtualhorseranch.com/viewhorse.php?horse=1962992]~AC Finding My Limit[/url] {$72,560,000 } Suffolk [E]

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for now they are both still eventing in Driving... and I am trying to decide whether or not to try Driving to Vaulting... would love to acheive a draft horse with over 100 mill. lol.

Added your two.

[miss sarabi]

So this is what I have tentatively come up with for individual lists.

3DE

Bronco

Dressage/ *new* Dressage Classical (I'm thinking this should be grouped with Dressage as the optimum age is the same and they have the same opportunity to earn as much or more than regular Dressage)

*new*Vaulting (not sure how many people will have a vaulting only horse so I'll need your opinions on this)

Endy

Gaited/3 Gait

*new*Saddleseat

Driving

*new* Roadster (only pony driving event whereas the drafts can cross throughout marathon/cones/dressage/pulling BUT opt age is 19 so I don't know how many pony eventers are going to just do roadster...input needed for this one too. Might work best included in driving then people could do pony only events up to roadster to avoid cross disciplines? )

Showmanship

Confy

Jumping

*new* Jumping In Hand (pony event, not sure if it should be grouped with Jumping as the show/hunter jumpers can move onto HoF)

Track/Steeple

Harness/Steeple

Sprint

FH

Jousting

*new* Handy Pony/Polo (ponies get the main bonus in both of these sport events so I just thought there may be enough to fill a list...opinions?)

Western

TB

Cross discipline

This would make 22 divisions (up from 17).

Input is greatly appreciated.

[Zimmy]

Wow Sarabi, this is tough.. OK, I definitely agree about Dressage/Classical Dressage (it will take a while for the show breeds to start edging up into the WBs, but you are right, the events are so similar that they should stand the exact same chance) and I definitely agree about gaited being with three gaited and saddleseat being seperate...

hmm... the pony events I am a little baffled about, mostly due to ages... I think the Jumping could almost be included with other jumping because, if it picks up in popularity, I think it could produce big money earners and now that SJ goes to WBs I just think that if sport jumpers and WB jumpers are on the same list the ponies could be too.... and Handy Pony/polo together doesn't bother me as they are both sport and both pony main bonus (and heck, now that you mention it I might run mine in both).

I do not know what to tell you about the roadster event, I am frustrated by it's opt age... I wonder if maybe we are meant to switch from pony jumping or Handy pony to Roadster... so yeah, get more opinions on that one... and vaulting is tough... I don't think many people will use it alone, but, at the same time it seems odd to just leave it out. lol. I say try making them seperate for now and if it turns out that people only use them as cross discipline then you can remove them from the list (or just have a really small list, lol). but yeah, any other opinions are good... I guess I mostly agree with how you are thinking of doing it right now except for the fact that I actually think in hand jumping could be clumped with the rest of jumping, after all, WBs don't get the main bonus in HoF, so pony only events could be made for that just as easily as WB only events.

Now you get to wait to figure out what to do witht the next new events.


on a side note, I didn't mean to get sea breeze pulled off of the list, sea breeze never had her discipline changed or anything and was in events the first day that they were out, several people thought at first that it was a sport event... hence people entering without changing the disciplines... maybe the one time I can say someone didn't mean to cross discipline... I just didn't think about it at first. Up to you what matches the rules of the thread of course, but I had to point that out.

[miss sarabi]

Thanks for the input Zimmy. We'll see if others see it similar to us as well. After reading your post I am leaning towards including in hand with jumping. Maybe with Roadster and Vaulting we can play those by ear.

With Sea Breeze, after I saw the post I checked her. She is leveled in dressage. If she had not changed disciplines and had not earned any money I would have left it. The problem is is that she did earn money in those events and is now leveled in dressage. I was left with no choice but to follow my own rules lol. I do rely on other people to point things out to me when i miss them. Lori is great at correcting my mistakes haha. So thank you for letting me know and I'm sure that Widow completely understands why I took Sea Breeze off.

[Zimmy]

Thanks for the input Zimmy. We'll see if others see it similar to us as well. After reading your post I am leaning towards including in hand with jumping. Maybe with Roadster and Vaulting we can play those by ear.

With Sea Breeze, after I saw the post I checked her. She is leveled in dressage. If she had not changed disciplines and had not earned any money I would have left it. The problem is is that she did earn money in those events and is now leveled in dressage. I was left with no choice but to follow my own rules lol. I do rely on other people to point things out to me when i miss them. Lori is great at correcting my mistakes haha. So thank you for letting me know and I'm sure that Widow completely understands why I took Sea Breeze off.

oh, gotcha, OK... for some reason I was thinking that she hadn't been leveled in another discipline.

Sounds good about the events, I am pretty sure as people start to use them more you will get people voicing what works and what doesn't. lol. I myself think I am going to see if maybe the pony events make it possible to jump from event to event for opt age... vaulting I would only ever do at the end of a horse's career but if it 'catches on' you might see people starting in 'young' vaulting and so on... so I think it is wise to see where that and roadster go. You do an awesome job with this thread, I would be tearing my hair out!

[livelifelow]

I would agree with Zim on that I think the pony jumping should get tossed in with the other jumping, though you could always wait a few months and see how its going. I would also probably do the same waiting thing for the other new branches. I had no idea we'd gotten a trial for Polo and that pony had the main bonus, that's cool.

A thought that I acquired, what about splitting the cross discipline list up by breed type. Feel free to kill me for suggesting to add to your lovely, long, time consuming list keeping. That would clear up setting up a separate list for crossing over to vaulting with the drafts and roadster for the ponies. Not to mention showing off the pretty sports, stocks, giateds, and shows. Big downside would be all the list-keeping.

I'll also volunteer for caring for a few lists if you want to dump some. I figured you'd be thrilled by all the new events, or just decide to only include the old disciplines.

[Zimmy]

I would agree with Zim on that I think the pony jumping should get tossed in with the other jumping, though you could always wait a few months and see how its going. I would also probably do the same waiting thing for the other new branches. I had no idea we'd gotten a trial for Polo and that pony had the main bonus, that's cool.

A thought that I acquired, what about splitting the cross discipline list up by breed type. Feel free to kill me for suggesting to add to your lovely, long, time consuming list keeping. That would clear up setting up a separate list for crossing over to vaulting with the drafts and roadster for the ponies. Not to mention showing off the pretty sports, stocks, giateds, and shows. Big downside would be all the list-keeping.
I'll also volunteer for caring for a few lists if you want to dump some. I figured you'd be thrilled by all the new events, or just decide to only include the old disciplines.

ooh, I love that idea! Though I too would understand if poor Sarabi didn't want to do it because of all of the extra lists to manage. lol.

[Black_Widow]

Just thought i would say that im fine with her being off the list but thought i would add that i¤S Comet and i¤S Falling Star have been changed to dressage and has been in vaulting for quite a while so should they be taken of the list?

Im guessing that from now on 90% of the jousters will go on to vaulting so maybe ad a vaulting list?

[Zimmy]

Just thought i would say that im fine with her being off the list but thought i would add that i¤S Comet and i¤S Falling Star have been changed to dressage and has been in vaulting for quite a while so should they be taken of the list?

Im guessing that from now on 90% of the jousters will go on to vaulting so maybe ad a vaulting list?

I think there should be a separate cross discipline list for different breed types like Lori suggested... the current one is overflowing with sport horses but they are definitely not the only horses crossing disciplines any more....

A vaulting list would be for horses ONLY evented in vaulting and I can't see too many people eventing in nothing but vaulting during a horses career... but a draft cross discipline list would be great for anyone that goes from jousting or driving into vaulting (which I agree most horses will probably do now... or at least once it fully catches on).

[miss sarabi]

Ok...I love you guys for giving me ideas lol. For now what we'll do is lump vaulting in with dressage, roadster with driving and in-hand with jumping. We can re-visit this at a later date if need be. Splitting up the cross list....you're killing me lol. I've put off updating the list until we had some sort of direction, with that said I will update hopefully tonight.

Just thought i would say that im fine with her being off the list but thought i would add that i¤S Comet and i¤S Falling Star have been changed to dressage and has been in vaulting for quite a while so should they be taken of the list?

Im guessing that from now on 90% of the jousters will go on to vaulting so maybe ad a vaulting list?

Those two were retired so I don't normally check up of the retirees (although jousting/driving retirees now can venture out of retirement and into vaulting) so thank you for pointing the out for me Widow. Without you guys to spot things for me I think this list would fail lol.

I appreciate everyone's help and suggestions (both here and privately). Time to roll up my sleeves and re-vamp the list.

Oh afterthought, if I do split the cross list I think I will limit it to top 10 per breed type. Agreed?

[livelifelow]

I was thinking 5-10 if you split the cross list just so we don't kill you

[Zimmy]

I was thinking 5-10 if you split the cross list just so we don't kill you

agreed, even just top 5 would be cool... lemme know if I can help in any way... don't know exactly what I would help with, but I am willing to try. lol.