What happened to the events..?

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What happened to the events..?

Postby wgeorge44 » Mon Jan 04, 2010 10:35 am

running at, what was it, minus 3 or 4 days? it used to be that if there were 4 horses in the event by the time it was 3 or 4 days old it would run. now my events have 8 or 9 horses in it and going past minus 6 days..

I liked when they ran sooner. is it a bug...or change? and can we fix/change it back? :P

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Re: What happened to the events..?

Postby kwiedman » Mon Jan 04, 2010 12:58 pm

viewtopic.php?f=25&t=136315 I know, I don't like it either =(
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Re: What happened to the events..?

Postby wgeorge44 » Mon Jan 04, 2010 1:02 pm

hmmm :(

i understand that, but i feel running them earlier is better. easier too.
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Re: What happened to the events..?

Postby kwiedman » Mon Jan 04, 2010 1:04 pm

And gets more horses run in events lol I know, now I am so selective at what events I create, because I don't want them sitting there for what seems like forever. So now my horsies (ponies, show horses) don't get to go in very many events.
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Re: What happened to the events..?

Postby wgeorge44 » Mon Jan 04, 2010 2:14 pm

and if eventing a horse, it now takes a week for 4 events. which is why it is taking SOO much longer to get horses from 6-16 yrs of age. hence why my train off was started in july and people are still only about 10-14 years along.
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Re: What happened to the events..?

Postby Zimmy » Mon Jan 04, 2010 3:19 pm

yeah, I wonder if it is working better for the OPs... I know that part of the point was to make it easier on them but I find it hard to figure out if it is working out to be any easier on anyone since I find fewer people seem to be putting their horses in my events now, even with the extra days to do it... meaning that the OPs still have to run them in the end. :dunno:
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Re: What happened to the events..?

Postby indie » Mon Jan 04, 2010 10:06 pm

I run some limited and some unlimited classes and the limiteds actually usually fill up better, but I sitll have to wait way longer on average for the events to go. I can't tell if it is the new system or the fact that no one seems to be online for the last week or two.
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Re: What happened to the events..?

Postby Alabama » Thu Jan 07, 2010 5:49 pm

It is a lot easier on the Ops. Unrestricted events that aren't full by -3 days should still be being run as we have time. With the holidays, many of us were off and on due to family events, etc. But that should be back to normal soon.

If an event is unrestricted and is full by -3 days, we are considering the host is wanting to make more money and leaving it to them to run their own events until -7 days.

Restricted events will not be touched by Ops until -7 days, for the reason that if you cannot get a full 10 horses by -3 days, your restrictions are too strict and you either need to recruit more people to enter or you need to lessen the restrictions some.

Ops have gone from spending 2 or more hours, at least twice a day running events to 20 or 30 minutes twice a day running overdue events.
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Re: What happened to the events..?

Postby Jellybeanjoe » Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:05 pm

Even for events that are restricted but have 10+ entries, waiting 7 days tends to encourage lazy players to run their own events :) Goodness knows how many events were ran previously at 4 days overdue purely because the player who made them went "oh, the ops will run them for me at -4 days :) :) :)"
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Re: What happened to the events..?

Postby wgeorge44 » Fri Jan 08, 2010 7:27 am

I dont rely on the Ops. I run mine as soon as there are ten. but i never make mine too restricted. some 2-7s yeah, but i only ever do ages and they have never had a problem filing and running before the last few months. i think age restriced events should be able to run at -3 or -4 days. score or level ones should wait til -7.
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Re: What happened to the events..?

Postby Alabama » Fri Jan 08, 2010 4:44 pm

wgeorge44 wrote:I dont rely on the Ops. I run mine as soon as there are ten. but i never make mine too restricted. some 2-7s yeah, but i only ever do ages and they have never had a problem filing and running before the last few months. i think age restriced events should be able to run at -3 or -4 days. score or level ones should wait til -7.


From an Op's standpoints, a restriction is a restriction. If open events have a problem filling, we understand it just may not be a popular event at the moment, but the host is trying to allow as many horses as possible enter.

Age restriction limits the number of horses that can enter, the same as score or level restricted events, so if you want to restrict your event in any way, you either need to make sure there is enough interest, wait until the event fills or for a week to go by. If your age restricted event can't fill by -3 days, the age is too restricted, it's that simple.
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Re: What happened to the events..?

Postby kwiedman » Fri Jan 08, 2010 5:09 pm

Alabama wrote:If open events have a problem filling, we understand it just may not be a popular event at the moment, but the host is trying to allow as many horses as possible enter.


See, you may look at it in that way, but many people, like myself will only enter open events if they the horse is right near opt. age. That being said, an open event is pretty much just like a restricted event...
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Re: What happened to the events..?

Postby Alabama » Fri Jan 08, 2010 5:43 pm

kwiedman wrote:
Alabama wrote:If open events have a problem filling, we understand it just may not be a popular event at the moment, but the host is trying to allow as many horses as possible enter.


See, you may look at it in that way, but many people, like myself will only enter open events if they the horse is right near opt. age. That being said, an open event is pretty much just like a restricted event...


You are restricting yourself then, it's not the event stopping you from entering. We aren't going to tell players to not create open events that anyone (including novices and new players) can enter just because a smaller percentage of the players on the game won't enter open events. Unrestricted/open events allow anyone who wants to, to enter, meaning the event has a better chance of filling than if it only allowed horses meeting a certain criteria.

And yes, the players who enter the restricted events exclusively are in the minority. They are the super dedicated eventers and there aren't many of those when comparing the overall number of players entering events.
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Re: What happened to the events..?

Postby wgeorge44 » Sat Jan 09, 2010 11:31 am

i think the running at -7 days are discouraging people from eventing, i think THATS why there seem to be less and less horses to fill the events. its a pain for me to have to wait 7 days to compete. Ive heard a lot of complaints about it recently.
Maybe compromise and say -5 days?
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Re: What happened to the events..?

Postby Alabama » Sat Jan 09, 2010 8:22 pm

It's not discouraging people from hosting events, there are still over 1000 unrun events every day, with more on weekends, just as there was before. So the number of events being put up is unchanged. If it's discouraging people from eventing because they aren't as many events restricted enough for their horses to win, other players are picking up the slack. My own thread for people asking for unrestricted events was virtually unused, as in no one requesting unrestricted events, within a week or so of the change in how Ops run events. Meaning those players now actually have events they can enter.

It is encouraging people to run their own events though, by the time events get to -7, there's maybe 20 events that haven't been run. It has changed Ops involvement from having to run in excess of 150 events every day, half of which were restricted ( viewtopic.php?f=24&t=136164&start=0&hilit=Polo#p1474146 ), to running less than 50, most of which are not restricted.
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