Movement/SF Cap

[Never Say Never]

When movement and sf are capped and you put shoes on, how come it makes no difference? And when you remove them they go back to being 205 for movement, for example. Why is this?

[kwiedman]

Movement and surefoot cap at 205 without shoes. You can only get them to 215/225 with shoes. So when you remove them, they go back to 205.

[Never Say Never]

Movement and surefoot cap at 205 without shoes. You can only get them to 215/225 with shoes. So when you remove them, they go back to 205.

Yup, but when you put let's say draft shoes back on after taking off, let's say, gaited shoes, it goes back to 205...

[Alabama]

Is this happening to every horse you do? Or just the one? My horses don't lose sf/movement if I just swap shoes.

[Chione]

Dude... You can't remove shoes, you can only change them; and that doesn't screw up the SF/M (unless you use the evil shoes that shall not be named)

[kwiedman]

Oh, then I don't know >.> That shouldn't happen. I know Movement shoes don't cap as high as draft/traction etc.

[Alabama]

Hang on, reread what you wrote..

If your sf/movement is capped at before you put shoes on, you have to train it up again to cap it. The shoes don't add the sf/movement, only allow it to be trained higher, with the exception of those shoes that say they add sf/movement. So if you put shoes on that added sf, then changed them to shoes that don't add, your sf/movement would return to the previous cap and you have to train it up further.

[Never Say Never]

Hang on, reread what you wrote..

If your sf/movement is capped at before you put shoes on, you have to train it up again to cap it. The shoes don't add the sf/movement, only allow it to be trained higher, with the exception of those shoes that say they add sf/movement. So if you put shoes on that added sf, then changed them to shoes that don't add, your sf/movement would return to the previous cap and you have to train it up further.

Hmm okay. Let's say I have draft shoes on. I train movement and it caps at 215. That sounds right, right? (I think... Unless I'm that insane xD) I swap shoes to gaited. Movement STAYS at 215, even though it's supposed to go to 225. Later, I change back to draft shoes. Movement is at 205. Am I making sense? xD

[Miss Ruby]

Hang on, reread what you wrote..

If your sf/movement is capped at before you put shoes on, you have to train it up again to cap it. The shoes don't add the sf/movement, only allow it to be trained higher, with the exception of those shoes that say they add sf/movement. So if you put shoes on that added sf, then changed them to shoes that don't add, your sf/movement would return to the previous cap and you have to train it up further.

Hmm okay. Let's say I have draft shoes on. I train movement and it caps at 215. That sounds right, right? (I think... Unless I'm that insane xD) I swap shoes to gaited. Movement STAYS at 215, even though it's supposed to go to 225. Later, I change back to draft shoes. Movement is at 205. Am I making sense? xD

I believe that movement only goes to 215...SF goes to 225. It shouldn't drop when you change shoes (only thing that I have seen with dropping is that since I have the bonus that allows it to go higher, when I switch shoes it will sometimes go back to the normal cap)

[Never Say Never]

Hang on, reread what you wrote..

If your sf/movement is capped at before you put shoes on, you have to train it up again to cap it. The shoes don't add the sf/movement, only allow it to be trained higher, with the exception of those shoes that say they add sf/movement. So if you put shoes on that added sf, then changed them to shoes that don't add, your sf/movement would return to the previous cap and you have to train it up further.

Hmm okay. Let's say I have draft shoes on. I train movement and it caps at 215. That sounds right, right? (I think... Unless I'm that insane xD) I swap shoes to gaited. Movement STAYS at 215, even though it's supposed to go to 225. Later, I change back to draft shoes. Movement is at 205. Am I making sense? xD

I believe that movement only goes to 215...SF goes to 225. It shouldn't drop when you change shoes (only thing that I have seen with dropping is that since I have the bonus that allows it to go higher, when I switch shoes it will sometimes go back to the normal cap)

Hmm that's strange, because this stat-dropping thing happens to every horse I train...

[livelifelow]

First off, there are no shoes called Gaited shoes. Weighted shoes will boost movement 5 or 10 (don't remember which), I don't believe that it appears in the horse's stats as having gone up, but when you switch them to something else it will drop movement down to 205 or 210. Corrective shoes will do the same thing, boosting the surefoot with no apparent effect then drop it below the cap if you switch the shoes to something else. Protective shoes do the same, I'd assume.

[Chione]

First off, there are no shoes called Gaited shoes. Weighted shoes will boost movement 5 or 10 (don't remember which), I don't believe that it appears in the horse's stats as having gone up, but when you switch them to something else it will drop movement down to 205 or 210. Corrective shoes will do the same thing, boosting the surefoot with no apparent effect then drop it below the cap if you switch the shoes to something else. Protective shoes do the same, I'd assume.

Hence their evil-ness

[Never Say Never]

First off, there are no shoes called Gaited shoes. Weighted shoes will boost movement 5 or 10 (don't remember which), I don't believe that it appears in the horse's stats as having gone up, but when you switch them to something else it will drop movement down to 205 or 210. Corrective shoes will do the same thing, boosting the surefoot with no apparent effect then drop it below the cap if you switch the shoes to something else. Protective shoes do the same, I'd assume.

Sorry, I never actually noticed they were called "Weighted shoes", due to my laziness and idiocy, I didn't check. So it doesn't make a difference, then? That's sort of interesting because in dressage, it appears to boost the movement a little bit?

[Chione]

First off, there are no shoes called Gaited shoes. Weighted shoes will boost movement 5 or 10 (don't remember which), I don't believe that it appears in the horse's stats as having gone up, but when you switch them to something else it will drop movement down to 205 or 210. Corrective shoes will do the same thing, boosting the surefoot with no apparent effect then drop it below the cap if you switch the shoes to something else. Protective shoes do the same, I'd assume.

Sorry, I never actually noticed they were called "Weighted shoes", due to my laziness and idiocy, I didn't check. So it doesn't make a difference, then? That's sort of interesting because in dressage, it appears to boost the movement a little bit?

I dun think so; but to be honest I'd never dream on testing the theory out XD

[Odette]

First off, there are no shoes called Gaited shoes. Weighted shoes will boost movement 5 or 10 (don't remember which), I don't believe that it appears in the horse's stats as having gone up, but when you switch them to something else it will drop movement down to 205 or 210. Corrective shoes will do the same thing, boosting the surefoot with no apparent effect then drop it below the cap if you switch the shoes to something else. Protective shoes do the same, I'd assume.

Sorry, I never actually noticed they were called "Weighted shoes", due to my laziness and idiocy, I didn't check. So it doesn't make a difference, then? That's sort of interesting because in dressage, it appears to boost the movement a little bit?

I dun think so; but to be honest I'd never dream on testing the theory out XD

I use weighted shoes for dressage and my horses do the same as with draft.I can post links if anyone would like to see