Breeding bonuses- not working?

[kooki85]

Stallion

http://www.virtualhorseranch.com/viewho ... se=1501542

Mare

http://www.virtualhorseranch.com/viewho ... se=1467995

First baby- with 'Teh Smarts: Your mares produce +.05 int in foals regardless of any caps'

http://www.virtualhorseranch.com/viewho ... se=1785516

Second baby, without the bonus:

http://www.virtualhorseranch.com/viewho ... se=1785517

Shouldn't intel be higher on the first foal because of the bonus?

[Wolfsbayne]

I was wondering if they were working properly or not as ive seen little (actually zero) difference between my fourth and fifth generation foals.

[Mythara]

You have to remember that breeding is random.

This is from my brag thread, when I did a similar thing:

Third Gens - I managed to roll the second gens I kept up to In intel, with 159%-152% and got loads of above bc intel horses. I'm even releasing some I got that many. I'm only keeping one filly from each mare, and one colt from each stud (provided that I also keep at least one of each of the six colours I got with this breed - sounds complicated, I know, lol).

MψS Dhomhnaill Bhig
MψS Dubh-Mor
MψS Duddingston Loch
MψS Pond of Drummond
MψS Loch nan Deaspoirt
MψS Loch na Deighe fo Dheas
MψS Loch an Droighinn
MψS Loch Duntelchaig

I got so many born with pheno intel, that I got curious. I picked my best stud and bred him to all four mares. The studs were left on an account with out stud bonuses, and the mares were sent to an account without brood bonuses to foal. Here's the results:

No Bonus 1
No Bonus 2
No Bonus 3
No Bonus 4

They're sooooo close to the pheno point, I just don't know if they can make it that extra bit. I'm going to roll my third gens down hopefully to 140ish% intel and see what happens, then, if I can't get a pheno without the bonuses, I'm going to give up, and see if I can get strength higher.

On average, the foals with the bonuses, do have higher stats. They were born with: Grace and Glory, Speediest, Fit and Fearless, Teh Smarts, Magically Mighty, Mighty and Mountless, Twice is Thrice Better, Fantastic Foals, Bountiful Broods, Better Breeder.

[kooki85]

I know breeding is random. Just seems strange that they're so close with/without the bonuses.

Nice breed though!

By any chance, do you know what number eg turns to superb?

[Mythara]

I know breeding is random. Just seems strange that they're so close with/without the bonuses.

Nice breed though!

By any chance, do you know what number eg turns to superb?

http://vhrguide.silvermyst.co.uk/tips.html

[Swar]

Yes it will be +.05 but the range of randomness in the foals can make it appear non functional. A TB pre bonuses could be born with anything from a 117.5 to a 118.3 speed from the same pair of breeding horses. That is about a .8 range for that stat. The only way you could actually notice a difference would be if you ended up with one that was higher than 118.3. To be completely honest I have not actually looked closely at the foals before and after bonuses but happily, Mythara has

[kooki85]

I know breeding is random. Just seems strange that they're so close with/without the bonuses.

Nice breed though!

By any chance, do you know what number eg turns to superb?

http://vhrguide.silvermyst.co.uk/tips.html

AWESOME!

I had that linked on my old laptop. Couldn't find it again. Thanks!

[Missing]

It seemed to me that my foals are born with worse stats (it's hard to get birthcap on horses I always get birthcap on) on my account with breeding skill.

I dunno but it seems odd. :/

[Wolfsbayne]

It seemed to me that my foals are born with worse stats (it's hard to get birthcap on horses I always get birthcap on) on my account with breeding skill.

I dunno but it seems odd. :/

I think im going to have to experiment and try and get two pairs rolled the same and breed on two different accounts one with and one without the bonuses and see what happens. I do seem to be struggling to get past the stats they've had for three/four generations now.

[Mythara]

It seemed to me that my foals are born with worse stats (it's hard to get birthcap on horses I always get birthcap on) on my account with breeding skill.

I dunno but it seems odd. :/

I think im going to have to experiment and try and get two pairs rolled the same and breed on two different accounts one with and one without the bonuses and see what happens. I do seem to be struggling to get past the stats they've had for three/four generations now.

Maybe you've reached the cap?

[Wolfsbayne]

It seemed to me that my foals are born with worse stats (it's hard to get birthcap on horses I always get birthcap on) on my account with breeding skill.

I dunno but it seems odd. :/

I think im going to have to experiment and try and get two pairs rolled the same and breed on two different accounts one with and one without the bonuses and see what happens. I do seem to be struggling to get past the stats they've had for three/four generations now.

Maybe you've reached the cap?

I hope not, its a pretty low bc for a new breed if it is at the cap.

[Mythara]

It seemed to me that my foals are born with worse stats (it's hard to get birthcap on horses I always get birthcap on) on my account with breeding skill.

I dunno but it seems odd. :/

I think im going to have to experiment and try and get two pairs rolled the same and breed on two different accounts one with and one without the bonuses and see what happens. I do seem to be struggling to get past the stats they've had for three/four generations now.

Maybe you've reached the cap?

I hope not, its a pretty low bc for a new breed if it is at the cap.

Can I see?

[Wolfsbayne]

It seemed to me that my foals are born with worse stats (it's hard to get birthcap on horses I always get birthcap on) on my account with breeding skill.

I dunno but it seems odd. :/

I think im going to have to experiment and try and get two pairs rolled the same and breed on two different accounts one with and one without the bonuses and see what happens. I do seem to be struggling to get past the stats they've had for three/four generations now.

Maybe you've reached the cap?

I hope not, its a pretty low bc for a new breed if it is at the cap.

Can I see?

Maybe it isnt a low bc and its just me

http://www.virtualhorseranch.com/viewho ... se=1785597

The fair hasnt changed since the first gen though which is what I thought was strange.

[Mythara]

It seemed to me that my foals are born with worse stats (it's hard to get birthcap on horses I always get birthcap on) on my account with breeding skill.

I dunno but it seems odd. :/

I think im going to have to experiment and try and get two pairs rolled the same and breed on two different accounts one with and one without the bonuses and see what happens. I do seem to be struggling to get past the stats they've had for three/four generations now.

Maybe you've reached the cap?

I hope not, its a pretty low bc for a new breed if it is at the cap.

Can I see?

Maybe it isnt a low bc and its just me

http://www.virtualhorseranch.com/viewho ... se=1785597

The fair hasnt changed since the first gen though which is what I thought was strange.

On most of my breeds, I tend to find that first/second gens are born with bc speed and endurance.

My first gen Each Uisge were born with stats around S/Am/Ex/S or F/Ex/Ex/S. My third gens are still being born F/Am/Ex/S (with a few getting pheno intel, but I think that's the breeder bonus).
http://www.virtualhorseranch.com/viewho ... se=1783908

My first gen Kelpies were born Am/Ex/G/F to Ex/F/G/F. The second gens are Ph/Am/G/F or Am/Am/G/F.

My first gen Witchy Warmbloods are Ex/Ex/EG/S ( http://www.virtualhorseranch.com/viewho ... se=1763424 ) and the birth cap is Am/Ph/EG/S.

I'm afraid you might be stuck with it. All you can really do, is make them the focus of your rolling and ignore strength and intel for a generation or two.

[Wolfsbayne]

On most of my breeds, I tend to find that first/second gens are born with bc speed and endurance.

My first gen Each Uisge were born with stats around S/Am/Ex/S or F/Ex/Ex/S. My third gens are still being born F/Am/Ex/S (with a few getting pheno intel, but I think that's the breeder bonus).
http://www.virtualhorseranch.com/viewho ... se=1783908

My first gen Kelpies were born Am/Ex/G/F to Ex/F/G/F. The second gens are Ph/Am/G/F or Am/Am/G/F.

My first gen Witchy Warmbloods are Ex/Ex/EG/S ( http://www.virtualhorseranch.com/viewho ... se=1763424 ) and the birth cap is Am/Ph/EG/S.

I'm afraid you might be stuck with it. All you can really do, is make them the focus of your rolling and ignore strength and intel for a generation or two.

Thanks for the advice, not uber experienced with birthcaps so it probably is stuck there. Ive been focussing on strength (would love inconceivable for jousting) and speed but no change so I think thats it now. Will try the other two from now on I think