wacky endy...

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wacky endy...

Postby elise:) » Mon Jan 05, 2009 10:11 pm

I'm training up a sport horse and for some reason, once endy maxed out, it has started "increasing" by -.001 It's kind of annoying me :lol: just wondering if anyone can tell me why this is happening. Diet is 100%, and the only bonuses I have, that could be affecting endy, are tenacious trainer, fit and fearless and sporty sorts.

Thanks in advance for any insight :D
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Postby Swar » Tue Jan 06, 2009 4:02 am

Same thing happened to me when I had that particular skill setup but it was fit and fearless, ten trainer and stocky steeds. It was decreasing endurance on stock horses.

Send in a bug ticket through Orbis with all that info. I have one in. That combo seems to be doing that for some reason.
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Postby freedom_seeker » Tue Jan 06, 2009 9:49 am

Since having ten. trainer and a breed bonus like Stocky Steeds or Sporty Sorts has the random gain to stat, it will try to add the .02 to endurance, which puts your horse's limit over the endurance. Since it can't stay that high, it will do -.0001 or whatever to get it back to where it needs to be.
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Postby elise:) » Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:27 am

freedom_seeker wrote:Since having ten. trainer and a breed bonus like Stocky Steeds or Sporty Sorts has the random gain to stat, it will try to add the .02 to endurance, which puts your horse's limit over the endurance. Since it can't stay that high, it will do -.0001 or whatever to get it back to where it needs to be.


But endy actually decreases, from being maxed out rather than staying maxed :\ I shall send in a ticket as it seems like it should work the same as if you tried to train teamwork after endy is maxed, it would say like a gain of .02, but endy just stays the same since it's maxed out
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Postby Alabama » Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:21 pm

What are you training in when it goes down? When you say maxed, you mean just above 200, not redlettered, right? What are all the bonuses you have? Though those may be the only one that say endurance, bonuses like restless and I think rapid recovery affect endurance in a round about way by increasing the energy your horse has.
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Postby elise:) » Tue Jan 06, 2009 1:49 pm

Alabama wrote:What are you training in when it goes down? When you say maxed, you mean just above 200, not redlettered, right? What are all the bonuses you have? Though those may be the only one that say endurance, bonuses like restless and I think rapid recovery affect endurance in a round about way by increasing the energy your horse has.


No, I meant redlettered. I don't have any of the training bonuses, besides tenacious trainer. I just have a few competition bonuses and lvl 10 and up bonuses.
I noticed it happening when I trained in speed laps, not sure if it does it when training in other things, though.
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Postby freedom_seeker » Tue Jan 06, 2009 1:55 pm

elise:) wrote:
freedom_seeker wrote:Since having ten. trainer and a breed bonus like Stocky Steeds or Sporty Sorts has the random gain to stat, it will try to add the .02 to endurance, which puts your horse's limit over the endurance. Since it can't stay that high, it will do -.0001 or whatever to get it back to where it needs to be.


But endy actually decreases, from being maxed out rather than staying maxed :\ I shall send in a ticket as it seems like it should work the same as if you tried to train teamwork after endy is maxed, it would say like a gain of .02, but endy just stays the same since it's maxed out


I noticed this with a few of my horses when I was trying to redletter max all of my tb's stats. You are training in Speed laps right? Which raises endurance normally when it is low enough. Try going to polo (for only speed) or arena:cattle (for speed and strength) and it won't do the -.0001 thing anymore.

You have the bonus for the random gain to a stat each training. It will add .02 to any stat it picks that training. If it does it to endurance and goes over, then you are training in something that normally higher's endurance, it will cause it to lower endurance. Switch the training around and it should stop.
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Postby elise:) » Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:00 pm

freedom_seeker wrote:
elise:) wrote:
freedom_seeker wrote:Since having ten. trainer and a breed bonus like Stocky Steeds or Sporty Sorts has the random gain to stat, it will try to add the .02 to endurance, which puts your horse's limit over the endurance. Since it can't stay that high, it will do -.0001 or whatever to get it back to where it needs to be.


But endy actually decreases, from being maxed out rather than staying maxed :\ I shall send in a ticket as it seems like it should work the same as if you tried to train teamwork after endy is maxed, it would say like a gain of .02, but endy just stays the same since it's maxed out


I noticed this with a few of my horses when I was trying to redletter max all of my tb's stats. You are training in Speed laps right? Which raises endurance normally when it is low enough. Try going to polo (for only speed) or arena:cattle (for speed and strength) and it won't do the -.0001 thing anymore.

You have the bonus for the random gain to a stat each training. It will add .02 to any stat it picks that training. If it does it to endurance and goes over, then you are training in something that normally higher's endurance, it will cause it to lower endurance. Switch the training around and it should stop.


Cool thanks :) I didn't realize that cattle work raises speed the same amount as polo and speed laps do. Plus it raises strength at a faster rate than the other two. I'm not sure why I haven't been using it all along, when training for jumping like I am with this particular horse.

edit;; Probably because up until recently cattle work would've reset disciplines ;)
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Postby Swar » Tue Jan 06, 2009 4:24 pm

Yes it was those three skills. Speed/endurance laps lowered endurance for the specific type of horse that matched the random stat increase skill (stocky steeds, sporty sports etc). Maybe once it drops down below the artificial cap caused by the skills it will pop back up but still, it shouldn't be dropping with any training type.

When it was occurring to me, I had none of the extra energy skills, just the three in combination. Got rid of Fit and Fearless and the endurance drops stopped. But anyway it looks buggy to me so I've got a ticket in about it with as much info as I could muster about the combination causing it. Hopefully it can get looked at, although thankfully, it is very easy to work around :)
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