Question about stats.....

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Question about stats.....

Postby BindiCo » Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:55 pm

Hi all.... I am hoping someone can clear up something for me.

I was wondering if it makes a difference if a horse that has been rolled to have stats like the following horse: http://www.virtualhorseranch.com/viewho ... se=1838924

is any different then a horse that has been rolled with stats that are like this: http://www.virtualhorseranch.com/viewho ... se=1203326 ?

I am talking about the stats that are in the (000).

Does the difference effect how well the foals stats will be?

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Re: Question about stats.....

Postby Sick » Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:00 pm

Actuals aren't as important as percentages, I've found. So long as the actuals are AT LEAST 200, then they are irrelevant. ;)

Now...that's for breeding purposes. For EVENTING purposes, the actuals are the thing you need.

This is part of why sometimes, evented horses suck for breeding. :P
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Re: Question about stats.....

Postby Alias » Wed Mar 11, 2009 12:50 pm

The lower the percentage of the stat, not the acutal, the better the foals stats will be upon foaling. Actuals are important for eventing, as Sick stated, but they help for rolling as well. If you can get them as low as possible (meaning as close to 200) its MUCH easier to switch up the highest and lowest stats to roll for better percentage numbers.

Sick- Event trained horses can me paired with uber rolled horses of breeding stock and produce some very nice BC foals. I've also found that if you roll an evented horse after their career is over, they are more valuable and tend to have BC to Over-BC foals when paired with breeding stock. Got 2 Over-BC colts from my 126million winning Arab stud when I paired him with a rolled mare :D
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Re: Question about stats.....

Postby BindiCo » Wed Mar 11, 2009 11:04 pm

Thank you Alias and Sick...

Ok, so it's the actual stats that matter. SOoooo...how does one work to get those stats lowered in order to make future foals better...as in better stats then their parents? If rolling, and the stats in (ooo) don't really matter...is there a way to get the actuals down more with each generation?

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Re: Question about stats.....

Postby Sick » Wed Mar 11, 2009 11:25 pm

You don't want actuals to go down. They should hover between 200 and 201 if you are rolling for breeding. I actually wouldn't reccomend breeding anything with an actual below 200, unless you are breeding for conformation.

I think we aren't being clear what stats are what. I'll illustrate.

Here's one of my horse's stats:

Strength/natural: (potential): 95% (109.25) (Phenomenal)
Intelligence/natural: (potential): 95% (96.05) (Extraordinary)
Speed/natural: (potential): 95% (117.14) (Inconceivable)
Endurance/natural: (potential): 99% (108.36) (Amazing)

I've colour-coordinated it.

This is the stat itself.
This is the "potential" stat, or "percentage." THIS is what you want as low as humanly possible, once you get the actual stats to 200-201. The highest actual stat will decrease in percentage slowly, the lowest actual stat will decrease in percentage much faster, while the middle two stats will remain unchanged. This is how you roll.
This, the number in parenthesis, is the ACTUAL stat. These should, for rolling, be between 200 and 201.
This is simply the stat title...it is determined by the percentage, or "potential" stats of a horse...i.e., if a horse's percentage in a stat, once actuals are to 200-201, is 203%, it will almost assuredly be "Fantastic!" but if it gets to about 200%, it will "roll" into "Extraordinary."

.................................in retrospect I should have chosen a horse I've already maxed instead of a foal I literally just slapped shoes on and nothing else, but I've already dealt with the headache of colour-coding so I'm not gonna re-do. :P

Does that help? :)
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Re: Question about stats.....

Postby BindiCo » Tue Mar 17, 2009 7:07 am

Sick...

thanks so much for all your work, and artistry in explaining the stats! :) heheheh I greatly appreciated it. I THINK I've got it. So basically, the ACTUAL STAT (109.25) This, the number in parenthesis, is the ACTUAL stat. These should, for rolling, be between 200 and 201) should always be 200, or 201...and lowering that particular stat as low as possible then, doesn't have any bearing on how the stats turn out on the future foals? IS That correct??

SOO...if this does not help, or make a difference in ones ability to create better stats on future foals... WHY ROLL? Other the to change Stat Title? Is it the STAT TITLE that makes it possible to change future foals stats then?

I hope I am not confusing you. But I honestly don't get how it actually works. There has got to be a way to make stats better with each generation... NO?

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Re: Question about stats.....

Postby Mythara » Tue Mar 17, 2009 2:40 pm

BindiCo wrote:So basically, the ACTUAL STAT (109.25) This, the number in parenthesis, is the ACTUAL stat. These should, for rolling, be between 200 and 201) should always be 200, or 201...and lowering that particular stat as low as possible then, doesn't have any bearing on how the stats turn out on the future foals? IS That correct??


You want the actual stats between about 200 and 201 so that you can swap between the four stats more easily, depending on which ones you want to roll as your highest stat (goes down 1% per year approx.) or your lowest stat (goes down 2% per year). The only two actual stats you can lower are strength (with a diet below 100) or endurance (a diet above 100). What the actual stat is, has no effect on the foals.


BindiCo wrote:SOO...if this does not help, or make a difference in ones ability to create better stats on future foals... WHY ROLL? Other the to change Stat Title? Is it the STAT TITLE that makes it possible to change future foals stats then?


The actual stat (as long as the horse is stat maxed) doesn't effect the quality of the foals, but the percentage does. Rolling lowers the percentage. Horses with lower percentages throw better foals. The stat title is a rough indication of the percentage, but there's roughly 10-15% between each stat title. It's the percentage that really matters. For example,

178% (200.75) (Amazing)
184% (200.71) (Amazing)

For both these stats, the stat title is the same, the actual is only 0.04 different, but there's 6% difference between the percentages. In this case, the top stat is better for breeding, because the percentage is lower.
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Re: Question about stats.....

Postby BindiCo » Mon Mar 23, 2009 1:40 am

Thanks Mythara :)
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