Top Horses in Disciplines Request thread.

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Postby Zaraluna » Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:35 am

I understand that it would be hard but couldn't we go by the honesty of the players and if someone else feels like being picky and checking and posting NICELY then why not? I mean it's worth a try anyways....and yeah racing isn't split...but you also have a Top TB list AND a cross list of racing/foxhunting....just like racing it's possible one of THOSE horses were in a sporting event or some such first but buried so deep no one bothers...just like it's possible some of the Western horses could have been Sprint racers for all anyone knows...I mean do you really look through all of the Western horses? I wouldn't doubt if some MIGHT have done some sprinting....but yeah I'm not trying to be mean....but it just makes sense to me....
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Postby elise:) » Sun Jan 11, 2009 11:41 am

Zaraluna wrote:I understand that it would be hard but couldn't we go by the honesty of the players and if someone else feels like being picky and checking and posting NICELY then why not? I mean it's worth a try anyways....and yeah racing isn't split...but you also have a Top TB list AND a cross list of racing/foxhunting....just like racing it's possible one of THOSE horses were in a sporting event or some such first but buried so deep no one bothers...just like it's possible some of the Western horses could have been Sprint racers for all anyone knows...I mean do you really look through all of the Western horses? I wouldn't doubt if some MIGHT have done some sprinting....but yeah I'm not trying to be mean....but it just makes sense to me....


There is a page on the VHR wiki for top horses, where you could give your idea a test run and see how much time and energy it takes to split up western [as long as you don't screw up the lists, while changing it XD] and keep up to make sure people are being honest about what their horse has competed in.
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Postby Zaraluna » Sun Jan 11, 2009 12:40 pm

That's the whole point though....I totally doubt that they even check the horses too deeply what they event in anyways. I mean does anyone honestly go ALL the way through every Western horse to see if they've NEVER competed in Sprint racing? Which is a common Stock event....which would mean that horse couldn't be listed in either Western OR Racing...lolz...that brings up another issue....a list can't be accurate if all parties can't have the opportunity to be on the list....any Western horse who competed in Sprint shouldn't be on the Western list and any Sprint horses who switched to Western shouldn't be on the Sprint list....so those horses can't even BE listed.....which means neither list can be very accurate....wow...I have no idea where that came from but...now that I think about it, it's true...
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Postby Mythara » Sun Jan 11, 2009 12:47 pm

Zaraluna wrote:That's the whole point though....I totally doubt that they even check the horses too deeply what they event in anyways. I mean does anyone honestly go ALL the way through every Western horse to see if they've NEVER competed in Sprint racing? Which is a common Stock event....which would mean that horse couldn't be listed in either Western OR Racing...lolz...that brings up another issue....a list can't be accurate if all parties can't have the opportunity to be on the list....any Western horse who competed in Sprint shouldn't be on the Western list and any Sprint horses who switched to Western shouldn't be on the Sprint list....so those horses can't even BE listed.....which means neither list can be very accurate....wow...I have no idea where that came from but...now that I think about it, it's true...


Horses that have competed in Sprint and Western belong on the Cross disciplines list. =)
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Postby Wolfsbayne » Sun Jan 11, 2009 12:51 pm

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Postby Zaraluna » Sun Jan 11, 2009 3:58 pm

Just curious...but then how come the foxhunting/racing tbs can't go on the cross disciplines list along with the cross disciplines of Western eventing? it's all still cross discipline even though it's still all Western....how come we can single out some types of eventing but not all of them? How can it be any harder? Except that there would be more horses...but still like I've said before I highly doubt anyone goes through every horse before they're put up....lolz...oh and I'm done...seriously, last one and sorry for being like not on topic really too....
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Re: VHR Top Horses in Disciplines (Updated December 18th)

Postby Mythara » Sun Jan 11, 2009 4:01 pm

miss sarabi wrote:Cross Discipline Eventers
1.CCA Citation {$254,385,750}TB racing/foxhunting[E]
2.-Ð- Vengeance {$222,055,000}TB racing/jumping[E]
3.MM Bewitch{$218,889,667}TB racing/sport[E]
4.-Ð- Whippoorwill {$182,752,000}TB racing/jumping[R]
5.-Ð- Corporate Jungle {$160,422,500}App.QH racing/western[R]

6.AA Ora Dawn {$146,442,845}TB racing/jumping[E]
7.MM Scaredy Kat {$125,139,167}TB racing/foxhunting[E]
8.[SRS] Trick of the Light {$122,450,000}TB racing/jumping[R]
9.DWS Acantha Pirate {$122,302,515}App. QH racing/western[E]
10.-Ð- Rum Runnin Rebel {$121,004,500}App. QH racing/western[E]
11..ar. Flare {$119,177,500}App. QH racing/western[R]
12..ar. Silver Lily {$117,852,500}TB jumping/foxhunting[E]
13..ar. Acantha {$104,049,623}App. QH racing/western[R]
14.//ev// Nearctic {$101,770,505}TB racing/jumping[E]
15.{GGS} Never Back Down {$101,440,118}TB racing/jumping [E]
16.*NFS* Foxy Lynx {$96,660,000}TB racing/jumping/FH[E]
17.*NFS* Uncontrolled Rage {$95,760,000}TB racing/jumping/fox[E]
18.[є] War Admiral {$88,099,300}TB racing/FH[E]
19.*NFS* Mockingbird {$87,670,000}TB racing/FH[E]
20.GPS Lithium Flower {$82,722,750}TB 3DE/Foxhunting [R]
21.AA Orabella {$74,698,750}TB racing/jumping[E]
22.[SRS] Calypso {$74,302,500}TB racing/jumping/FH [E]
23.**HsA** Early Darkness {$72,759,886}Standardbred racing/jumping [E]
24.DrM Dreaming of Carrie{$70,662,500}TB racing/jumping[E]
25.[SRS] Colorful Dawn {$70,530,000}TB racing/jumping[R]


There's loads of TB's on the cross-discipline list. o.O

I think I see what your question is.

Western horses that are competed in barrels, trail, etc are entered in different western events, but its one discipline. They're leveled in Western and that's it.

A horse that's been in Sprint then put into Barrel racing has been levelled twice - once in Racing, once in Western - so they've been in two disciplines.

Racing/Fox hunting TBs are the same - they've been in Racing and Sport.
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Postby Zaraluna » Sun Jan 11, 2009 4:21 pm

Grrr ok so I KNOW I said I wasn't posted again but now I gotta...so how come the TBs are on the cross discipline list when there are already top TB lists and foxhunting/racing lists? I guess what I really should be saying is how come we can do some much splitting and special lists for TBs but not Western horses?
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Postby miss sarabi » Mon Jan 12, 2009 1:28 pm

Zaraluna wrote:Grrr ok so I KNOW I said I wasn't posted again but now I gotta...so how come the TBs are on the cross discipline list when there are already top TB lists and foxhunting/racing lists? I guess what I really should be saying is how come we can do some much splitting and special lists for TBs but not Western horses?


Wow. For starters the TB list was started at the very beginning when I started this whole thread so I really don't see a need to change it. That list is THE ONLY one that is breed specific. You claim that there is so much "splitting" and "special lists" for TB's when in fact there is only the one list specifically for TB's. ALL breeds are allowed on the cross disciplines list. Western is NOT a cross discipline whether you go from trail to barrels to pleasure it is still western. Just like the racing list which DOES include sprint, track, steeple, and harness. I know the racing list includes more than just TB's on it....I have the #7 spot with my sprinter ApQH. The lists are based on earnings. TB's are a very popular breed hence why they dominate a few of the lists. Look at jumping, it includes show jumping, hunter over fences, and hunter. What the heck is the foxhunting/racing list?? There is a sport list and there is a racing list. ANY breed can be on any of the disciplines list as long as they have only been levelled and evented in one discipline. The disciplines for this list are:
3-day Eventing
Bronco
Dressage
Driving
Endurance Racing
Gaited
Halter Conformation
Halter Show
Jumping
Racing
Sport
Sport Jousting
Western

If a horse has been evented in halter showmanship then in dressage they can ONLY be on the cross disciplines list. The same applies for any breed...not just TBs.

The guidelines for qualifying for a list is stated well on the first page of this thread. If you had read through the thread you will see where the introduction of the cross discpline list actually removed the top western horses because they had been evented in sprint. When I see a western horse with outrageous earnings I do check as far back as it goes to see if there was any sprint. I resent you implying otherwise. I have tried to be as accomodating as I can be to people's input and suggestions. Most suggestions get implemented but this one will not at this time.

I strongly suggest you to start your own thread with a list of just the western horses. This way you have control of how the list is arranged. I try to make this as fair as possible and there are always going to be those who feel that they have been left out. When someone wanted me to do a breeds list I suggested they start their own. Shortly afterwards a Highest Earners by Breed list was created.

This list was created to satisfy my own curiosity and to create goals for people. It makes me work harder training and eventing my own horses.

So let's be sure to ask polite questions if you do not understand how something works.

If there is anything else that is confusing or difficult to understand please let me know. I want everybody to understand the concept of the cross disciplines list and how it differs from the other lists.


Special thanks to elise and mythara.
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Postby Zaraluna » Mon Jan 12, 2009 2:05 pm

Well excuse me if you thought I was being rude, I remember statting that I didn't mean any harm by my words but I am a blunt person, if something bothers me I state it without any niceties and dilusions because they end up just confusing the real question....and my bad I thought I saw a list for racers/foxhunters but you know people can't remember everything....but I do have to say one more thing....You still separate Jousting from sporting, so how is it any different then separating some of the Western events? Again I'm not trying to be mean but I don't play around with asking questions.
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Postby miss sarabi » Mon Jan 12, 2009 2:23 pm

Zaraluna wrote:Well excuse me if you thought I was being rude, I remember statting that I didn't mean any harm by my words but I am a blunt person, if something bothers me I state it without any niceties and dilusions because they end up just confusing the real question....and my bad I thought I saw a list for racers/foxhunters but you know people can't remember everything....but I do have to say one more thing....You still separate Jousting from sporting, so how is it any different then separating some of the Western events? Again I'm not trying to be mean but I don't play around with asking questions.


It was discussed in this thread that because jousting's bonus goes to draft horses that it would be best to separate jousting from foxhunting/polo. Foxhunting and polo's big bonus goes to sport horses. It makes it fair seeing as you wouldn't see a Shire beating a TB in FH nor would you see a TB beating a Shire in jousting. All of the western events give the big bonus to stock horses so there would still be no reason to separate western.
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Postby miss sarabi » Mon Jan 12, 2009 4:03 pm

Updated :D

3DE
.MLA. Cumen moved from 13th to 6th!

Bronco
Fortress of Recall has claimed top bronco horse!!
KC Destined For Glory moved from 3rd to 2nd
{'57} Safety Dance moved from 11th to 6th

Dressage
MS Everlasting Time moved from 8th to 7th

Endurance
*PW* Siren Song moved from 5th to 4th
DDI Anahita moved from 10th to 6th

Halter Conformation
.ash. Disbelief moved from 7th to 6th

Halter Showmanship
fD Zephyr Dee moved from 8th to 6th

Racing
Bronzed Raven moved from 10th to 6th
-W- Dreaming For The Devil moved from 12th to 9th
{'57} Battle Royale moved from 13th to 10th

Jousting
KoC The Ghost has claimed top jousting horse!!

Congrats all and keep up the great work! You all amaze me.
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Postby Kiangia » Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:17 am

·Pure· Cinnamon Twist in Driving with 44,660,000. Still eventing :3

Just now noticed I could put him in here x3 Silly me.
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Postby Mythara » Wed Jan 14, 2009 1:29 pm

Two new ones for Dressage :D

13. M‡S Time Heals All {$30,827,500} German Warmblood [E]

15. M‡S The Time is Right {$30,305,000} German Warmblood [E]

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13. [url=http://www.virtualhorseranch.com/viewhorse.php?horse=1552620]M‡S Time Heals All[/url] {$30,827,500} German Warmblood [E]

15. [url=http://www.virtualhorseranch.com/viewhorse.php?horse=1552624]M‡S The Time is Right[/url] {$30,305,000} German Warmblood [E]
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